i have a main form with several sub-forms. the end user does their data entry. if needed to edit any of the info after they have done their entry and have closed the form out..... they open this main form back up and all the info should appear on main form and all sub-forms. the record source when opening this form for edit is a query. i can run the query and all records show as expected; however, when opening the form sometimes a sub-form might not show it's records. i remove the master/child links and then records appear but ALL records appear out of the table for the sub-form. i am at a loss right now on why this is happening. just very odd to me that the records show when running query that is the record source for the form but when opening the form they are not present in the sub-form. is there some simple setting that i have wrong? a big duh right now. thanks for any help.