I'd better cut right to the chase with an upload, as it's pretty complicated to explain. The "patient" is form ProgramViewF and subforms. My subforms 2 and 3 are correctly updating the table ProgramRoleT with a basic record, but so far, nothing I have been able to put in the event processing for subs 2 or 3 is able to refresh the (complex) SELECT statement in ProgramViewSubF. As a result I can't add the additional data (start and stop dates) to the underlying data of ProgramViewSubF. Any thoughts how I can force a re-select?