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Remove "aliases" from queries

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    skydivetom is offline Competent Performer
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    Remove "aliases" from queries

    Experts:

    Attached database uses a dual listbox (on form) which is linked to three queries.

    Two of the three queries (Q50A_BilletsToWorkingGroups; Q50C_BilletsToWorkingGroups) use **aliases** for the tables?

    Does anyone know how to remove the aliases (and use actual table names) w/o losing the form's existing ability to move items across the two listboxes?

    If so, what's the syntax of the 2 queries "Q50A_BilletsToWorkingGroups" & "Q50C_BilletsToWorkingGroups" w/o aliases?

    Thank you,
    EEH
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    You can't avoid alias of qm "table".
    In Design View, select the "tables" and just replace the aliases in Property Sheet with the names that you want.

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    skydivetom is offline Competent Performer
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    I tried replacing the SQL below

    Code:
    SELECT q.WorkingGroupIDpk, 
           q.WorkingGroup, 
           qm.WorkingGroupIDfk
    FROM T11_WorkingGroups AS q 
    LEFT JOIN 
    (SELECT T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk, 
            T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk 
    FROM T10_JunctionTable_BWG 
    WHERE T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk=Forms![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]!BilletIDfk) AS qm 
    ON q.WorkingGroupIDpk = qm.WorkingGroupIDfk
    WHERE (((qm.WorkingGroupIDfk) Is Null));
    with

    Code:
    SELECT T11_WorkingGroups.WorkingGroupIDpk, 
           T11_WorkingGroups.WorkingGroup, 
           T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk
    FROM T11_WorkingGroups  
    LEFT JOIN 
    (SELECT T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk, 
            T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk 
    FROM T10_JunctionTable_BWG 
    WHERE T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk=Forms![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]!BilletIDfk)  
    ON T11_WorkingGroups.WorkingGroupIDpk = T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk
    WHERE (((T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk) Is Null));
    I must assume I made a mistake somewhere in the conversion... upon executing, I receive the error "Syntax error in JOIN operation". What am I missing?

    Thanks,
    EEH

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    "mq" cannot just be replaced with a just table name because "mq" is a query (sub query ie a "virtual table").

    So I created a new saved query named "qryT10_J_BWG". The SQL for this query is
    Code:
    SELECT T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk, T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk
    FROM T10_JunctionTable_BWG
    WHERE (((T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk)=[Forms]![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]![WorkingGroupIDpk]));
    Then I deleted the sub query SQL from the query "Q50C_BilletsToWorkingGroups" and replaced every instance of "mq" with "qryT10_J_BWG"
    Code:
    SELECT T01_Billets.BilletIDpk, T01_Billets.RA_BIN AS RA_BIN_NUMBER, T01_Billets.RA_Billet_Title, qryT10_J_BWG.BilletIDfk
    FROM T01_Billets LEFT JOIN qryT10_J_BWG 
            ON T01_Billets.BilletIDpk = qryT10_J_BWG.BilletIDfk
    WHERE (((T01_Billets.RA_BIN)          Like "*" & [Forms]![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]![Search2] & "*") AND ((qryT10_J_BWG.BilletIDfk) Is Null)) OR 
          (((T01_Billets.RA_Billet_Title) Like "*" & [Forms]![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]![Search2] & "*") AND ((qryT10_J_BWG.BilletIDfk) Is Null));
    HTH
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    Paradoxically, Access accepts a table name as a query alias.

    SQL def for "Q50A_BilletsToWorkingGroups":
    Code:
    SELECT T11_WorkingGroups.WorkingGroupIDpk, T11_WorkingGroups.WorkingGroup, T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk FROM T11_WorkingGroups 
    LEFT JOIN (SELECT T10_JunctionTable_BWG.[BilletIDfk], T10_JunctionTable_BWG.[WorkingGroupIDfk] FROM T10_JunctionTable_BWG 
    WHERE T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk=Forms![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]!BilletIDfk)  
    AS T10_JunctionTable_BWG 
    ON T11_WorkingGroups.WorkingGroupIDpk = T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk
    WHERE (((T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk) Is Null));
    SQL def for "Q50C_BilletsToWorkingGroups":
    Code:
    SELECT T01_Billets.BilletIDpk, T01_Billets.RA_BIN AS RA_BIN_NUMBER, T01_Billets.RA_Billet_Title, T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk
    FROM T01_Billets LEFT JOIN (SELECT T10_JunctionTable_BWG.[BilletIDfk], [T10_JunctionTable_BWG].[WorkingGroupIDfk] FROM T10_JunctionTable_BWG 
    WHERE T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk=Forms![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]!WorkingGroupIDpk)  
    AS T10_JunctionTable_BWG 
    ON T01_Billets.BilletIDpk = T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk
    WHERE 
    (((T01_Billets.RA_BIN) Like "*" &  [Forms]![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]![Search2] & "*") 
    AND ((T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk) Is Null)) 
    OR (((T01_Billets.RA_Billet_Title) Like "*" & [Forms]![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]![Search2] & "*") 
    AND ((T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk) Is Null));
    In my system, both of them works well.

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    ssanfu - thank you for chiming in... I appreciate the assistance, but ultimately I will have to go with accesstos' solution.

    accesstos -- your solution is superb! Thousand thanks for helping me out on this one. I truly appreciate it.

    <br>

    I am wondering if I could follow up w/ a question (slightly beyond the original post). If you prefer, I will gladly open a new post. Please let me know either way. Anyhow, here it is...

    1. Attached .zip file contains two databases. "Version1" (v01) includes the two updated queries (w/o aliases) and the form works great. Fantastic!
    2. Now, database "Version 2" (v02) is a copy of v01 but includes two additional tables: [T00_JunctionTable_OBS] & [T01_StaffMembers]

    Here's how I envision the process:
    - Given the updated queries w/o aliases, it was easier to tie table "Staffmembers" (having employees) into the query #3.
    - Basically, in the form, it would be great to see which employees (assigned to a billet/job) should be assigned to a working group.
    - Keep in mind, not all of the seven existing billets/jobs have an employee though. Thus, in this example database, position "Scheduling Assistant" and "Vice President" are vacant. The form ** prior to any WG assignments ** displays the information properly.
    - However, if I were to select all 7 billets/jobs in the left listbox and then move them into the right listbox, the two (2) vacant position disappear from the view in the right listbox.

    My question:
    How should the queries and/or VBA modified so that I can show the employees assigned to a billet/job which will help making when making assignments to working groups? Naturally though, I don't want to lose the vacant position in the form view.

    Thank you for any additional assistance in advance.

    Cheers,
    EEH
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    Hi EEH!

    If I have understood correctly, you have to change the type of joins in the query of the right listbox as below:

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    or, if you prefer in SQL view:
    Code:
    SELECT T01_Billets.BilletIDpk, T01_Billets.RA_BIN AS RA_BIN_Number, T01_Billets.RA_Billet_Title, T01_StaffMembers.LastName, T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk
    FROM T01_Billets INNER JOIN ((T10_JunctionTable_BWG LEFT JOIN T00_JunctionTable_OBS ON T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk = T00_JunctionTable_OBS.BilletIDfk) LEFT JOIN T01_StaffMembers ON T00_JunctionTable_OBS.StaffMemberIDfk = T01_StaffMembers.StaffMemberIDpk) ON T01_Billets.BilletIDpk = T10_JunctionTable_BWG.BilletIDfk
    WHERE (((T10_JunctionTable_BWG.WorkingGroupIDfk)=[Forms]![F50_BilletsToWorkingGroups]![WorkingGroupIDpk]))
    ORDER BY T01_Billets.RA_BIN;
    Cheers,
    John

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    accesstos -- YES, YES, YES!!! The modified SQL for right listbox works great.

    Please forgive me for asking one final question:


    Right now, the two vacant positions (Scheduling Assistant and Vice President) do *not* show a last name in the 3rd column (either in left or right listbox). Is there any way the "blank last names" could be replaced with, e.g., "[Vacant]" in the SQL for the right listbox and, I think the query, for the left listbox? If that's possible, what would the new SQL be?


    Again, I truly thank you for your help thus far!!!


    Cheers,
    EEH

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    EEH, you're welcome!

    About your question, just set the Format property of LastName in T01_StaffMembers to @;@;"Vacant"
    or, if you want, in addition, a color indication:@;@;[Red]"Vacant"

    Good luck with your project!

    Cheers,
    John

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    John... that's is absolutely beautiful how easily you solved this question. Very much impressed!!!

    Thousand thanks!!!!!

    EEH

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    John - again the form for billets to working groups work great. I now replicated the same process for "billets to UJTL".

    As I'm getting a VBA error, I posted the updated database and description at the following URL:
    https://www.accessforums.net/showthr...630#post436630

    Would love to have you have a look at identify where I missed making changes in the copying process of queries, form, and/or VBA.

    Thank you,
    EEH

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    Remove "aliases" from queries

    I have a few userobjects bound to C objects. In a few instances, I need to be able to remove them completely from GameMonkey and C at the same time. I had planned on just throwing something in the destructor to accomplish this, but Im unsure what I can use in GM to remove the actual userobject and thus nullify any references?Anybody know what I have to do? ;-)

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    ssanfu is offline Master of Nothing
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    @Normapow,

    First, welcome to the forum.
    Next, you have posted your question under someone else's thread. (BTW, this is known as "HI-jacking" a thread). You will probably not get any responses because very, very few people will see your post.
    You need/should to start you own thread, in an appropriate forum.

    At this point, I am not sure what your question has to do with MS Access....

    Good luck.....
    HTH
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    (I came; I saw; I stuck around.)

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