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    Table Design Help Required...

    Hi All,

    I'm New for DBMS and access.
    I'm preparing a tool in access. need some help on the same.



    below is the table which is used in excel now...
    but my difficulty is that, how can i implement the same in access.
    kindly help me designing the table for this.



    thanks in advance.
    Prasanna R.D



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    Your image did not get posted properly, can't view it.

    Start with gaining an understanding of relational data normalization http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283878

    Also:
    http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...able-analyzer/
    http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ex...010342703.aspx
    How to attach file: http://www.accessforums.net/showthread.php?t=70301 To provide db: copy, remove confidential data, run compact & repair, zip w/Windows Compression.

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    Thank for the links June...
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    have uploaded the table kindly have a look...

    Sl No Process Process Type Scope Man Hour Extra Hour Total Scope Step1 Step2 Step3 Step4 Step5 Step6 Step7 Step8 Total Earned Valuw
    1 asdf xyz Cum& 56 100 156 Cum& 0% 20% 40% 50% 70% 80% 90% 100%
    1 asdf xyz Per 66 71 137 Per 0 2 2 8 10 2 1 3
    1 asdf xyz Pln 93 77 170 Pln 3-Aug-13 5-Aug-13 7-Aug-13 15-Aug-13 25-Aug-13 27-Aug-13 28-Aug-13 31-Aug-13
    1 asdf xyz Act 61 67 128 Act 3-Aug-13 5-Aug-13 7-Aug-13 15-Aug-13 25-Aug-13 27-Aug-13 31-Aug-13 6-Sep-13
    1 asdf xyz FC 67 72 139 Forecast

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    Till someone comes along, a few questions, which might perhaps be helpful for others, to help you :
    1) Why is Sl No 1 for all the records ?
    2) Which fields together determine a unique record ?
    3) Why do you have two Scope fields ?
    4) What do Step1, Step2,...Step8 indicate ?
    5) Why do you have different value types for the Steps, for eg. percent;Number; Date; Null ?

    Thanks

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    Here's what I get out of that:

    tblProcess
    SINO Process Type
    1 asdf xyz

    tblSteps
    SINO Step Cum Per Pln Act FC Hour ExtraHr
    1 1 0 0 8/3/2013 8/3/2013
    1 2 20 2 8/5/2013 8/5/2013
    1 3 40 2 8/7/2013 8/7/2013
    1 4 50 8 8/15/2013 8/15/2013
    1 5 70 10 8/25/2013 8/25/2013
    1 6 80 2 8/27/2013 8/27/2013
    1 7 90 1 8/28/2013 8/28/2013
    1 8 100 3 8/31/2013 8/31/2013
    How to attach file: http://www.accessforums.net/showthread.php?t=70301 To provide db: copy, remove confidential data, run compact & repair, zip w/Windows Compression.

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    Hi Recyan,

    1) Sl No is nothig but a Process ID.
    3) Second scope is type error (My Apologies).
    4) Step1, Step2,...Step8 indicates the phases to finish the process.
    5) percent for % of work done ;Number for period allotted to finish that step ; Date for planned/Actual date when the step is completed; Null is nothing but a forecast date based on the planned-date and actual date

    Thanks

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    Thank you June, This is really very helpful,
    do i need to create separate tables for scopes ?

    is it really required...?
    and i did the relation on Sl no.. is it the right way to relate the tables...

    And one more thing is that,
    Each Process will have n number of Types and the steps may vary based in process type...

    Thanks,

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    Sorry, more questions :
    1) There are many unique PROCESSES.
    2) Each PROCESS can have many TYPES.
    3) Each PROCESS with a TYPE can have many SCOPES.
    4) Each PROCESS with a TYPE and a SCOPE has a fixed "MAN HOUR" and "EXTRA HOUR" manually allocated against them.
    5) Each PROCESS with a TYPE and a SCOPE has essentially 8 and only 8 steps, each manually recorded as a percent, number or Date (SCOPE - Cum as Percent, SCOPE - Per as Number, SCOPE - Pln as Date, SCOPE - Act as Date, SCOPE - FC as Date)

    In the Table Data, that you have presented,

    Each PROCESS with a TYPE and a SCOPE is a unique Record (i.e. they together form the Primary key).

    If, you are allowed to / can post the practical scenario, behind the data, as to what the actual process in the physical world is, it, perhaps would be easier for people to help & think along lines of preventing pitfalls of wrong design suggestions.

    Would suggest taking a look at the links suggested by June, in case you have not done so.

    Thanks

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    Hi Recyan,

    Attached is the sample excel template for ref...Sample.zipSample.zip

    thanks

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    Hi,
    Will try to take a look asap.
    Forgot to mention in my previous post ( No 15).
    Wanted to know from you, whether, the statements 1 to 5 and the rest, that I have written, are correct or not. If not, request you to correct the statements.

    Thanks

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    1) There are many unique PROCESSES.- Right
    2) Each PROCESS can have many TYPES. -Right
    3) Each PROCESS with a TYPE can have many SCOPES.- No- Scopes will remain constant, %, Per, Pln, Act and FC.
    4) Each PROCESS with a TYPE and a SCOPE has a fixed "MAN HOUR" and "EXTRA HOUR" manually allocated against them.- no Mah hour will change based on type.
    5) Each PROCESS with a TYPE and a SCOPE has essentially 8 and only 8 steps, each manually recorded as a percent, number or Date (SCOPE - Cum as Percent, SCOPE - Per as Number, SCOPE - Pln as Date, SCOPE - Act as Date, SCOPE - FC as Date) -yes.

    thanks

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    Hi June,

    Kindly help me understanding this table design.

    can u elaborate little more about this...

    Thanks,

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