I have Form (A) and I have subform (B). When I open the form the select record bar is visable on both forms. The select record bar on Form (A) is at the bottom of the screen. The select record bar on subform (B) is about 3.5 inches from the top of the screen. In design view both forms are 3.5 inches high. In form view Form (A) takes up whole screen while Subform (B) is 3.5 inches high. When I take Form (A) and make it a subform of Form (C) the select record bar is not visible.