Word Automation issue

[DC CS]

Hi all,
I am doing some Word automation in MS Access in one of my DB's. I am experiencing that MS Word sometimes generates a warning or information message, but the message are being displayed in the back of the database that is open, so the users does not see the message and think that the DB has "freezed" and uses Ctrll + Alt + Del to close Word.
Once they do this, it is a nightmare to continue doing the automation as Word then displays the message "Word caused a serious error the last time you opened the document....", but because it is displayed at the back of the open DB, the user cannot see the message.

Is there some way I can force that the message be displayed in front so that it is visible to the users, and they can take appropriate action?


Thanks a mil.

[June7]

Is Word document open and visible?

Why is Word generating message?

[DC CS]

Hi,
Yes, Word is open and visible in certain instances, and open and not visible in other instances.

I have no idea why Word is generating the messages.
The norm seems to be that the document is already open (Word asks if a read only copy must be opened, or the message states that there was an error with the previous opening of the document.

My big issue is that these messages are not visible to the user as the message is in the background. Once I open the task manager, then only can I see the message. The users do not have access to run the task manager as the DB runs on a remote server.

[Welshgasman]

Do you have error checking in the code?
Can you MSGBOX the error code if not taken care of?
That should appear on top I would have thought?

[June7]

Post your code.

Best would be to figure out why messages occur and prevent. Why would user open a document that is already open?

Not sure the popups can be controlled with code. Seems that would require somehow manipulating Windows.

[mike60smart]

Hi

Try changing it from a Popup to a Normal View.

[DC CS]

Hi.
There are no messages in my code. There are error routines that takes care of the errors, should they occur.
When the automation code runs, I am opening a Word document as a template with no contents. Only the company logo and detail is in the document header.
I then open some tables in the database and populate the Word document with the data. Once the data is populated, I save a copy of the word document into the user's folder and e-mail the document to the user as well. I then close the Word application.

When running the next document automation, it seems as if the Access program is in an never-ending loop, but it is not. Word generated messages as described in above discussion. These messages are in the background and not visible to the users. This gives the illusion that the Access program has "freezed".

I need to tell Word to show the messages in the front (on top of the Access program) so that the user can take the appropriate action and continue, but I am unable to do this.

Thanks

[June7]

Again, provide your code. Could provide db. Might even provide your Word document.

Is the Access form open in popup mode?

My comment about manipulating Windows messages not altered by your additional comments.

[DC CS]

Hi,
I am very reluctant to post my code or Word document here as the database is currently running on international level.

I will post extracts from my code:

Public Function CreateWordLetterETS(strdocpath As String)

    
    On Error GoTo errhand1
     
   If IsNull(strdocpath) Or strdocpath = "" Then
      Exit Function
   End If


   Dim Dbs As Database
   Dim objWord As Object
   Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document
   Dim PrintResponse
   Dim TEMP
   Dim QtyBrokenDays As Double
   Set Dbs = CurrentDb
   Set Dbs1 = CurrentDb
   Set Dbs3 = CurrentDb
   Set Dbs2 = CurrentDb
   Set Dbs4 = CurrentDb
   
   'create reference to Word Object
   QtyBrokenDays = 0
   Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application")
   Set objWordDoc = objWord.Documents.Open(strdocpath)

   With objWord        .Visible = True
        .Documents.Open (strdocpath)
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(14).Range.Select
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(14).Range.Text = "Competency declaration for"
        .Selection.Paragraphs.Alignment = wdAlignParagraphCenter: .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Indent
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(14).Range.Font.Size = 20
        '-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(15).Range.Select
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(15).Range.Text = Rst1!FirstName & " " & Rst1!Surname
        .Selection.Paragraphs.Alignment = wdAlignParagraphCenter
        '.ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Indent
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(15).Range.Font.Size = 20
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(15).Range.Font.Color = RGB(0, 0, 0) 'BLACK
        '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(17).Range.Select
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(17).Range.Text = "ID Number"
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(17).Range.Font.Color = RGB(192, 0, 0) 'RED
        .Selection.Paragraphs.Alignment = wdAlignParagraphCenter
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(17).Range.Font.Size = 20
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(18).Range.Select
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(18).Range.Font.Color = RGB(0, 0, 0) 'BLACK
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(18).Range.Font.Size = 20
        .Selection.Paragraphs.Alignment = wdAlignParagraphCenter

        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(31).Range.Select: .Selection.Paragraphs.Alignment = wdAlignParagraphLeft        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(31).Range.Font.Size = 16
        If Format(Rst!CertificateExpDate, "\#dd-mm-yyyy\#") <> Format("31-12-2999", "\#dd-mm-yyyy\#") Then
            .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(31).Range.Text = Rst!AssDate & Space(77) & Rst!CertificateExpDate
        Else
            .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(31).Range.Text = Space(2) & Rst!AssDate & Space(81) & "N/A"
        End If
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(31).Range.Font.Color = RGB(0, 0, 0) 'BLACK
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(32).Range.Select
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(32).Range.Font.Size = 10
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(32).Range.Text = "______________________" & Space(107) & "___________________"
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(33).Range.Select: .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(33).Range.Font.Size = 10
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(33).Range.Font.Size = 16
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(33).Range.Text = "Assessment Date" & Space(68) & "Expiry Date"
        '----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Add: .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Add
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(36).Range.Select
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(36).Range.Font.Size = 10
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(36).Range.Text = Space(140) & "____________________________"
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Add
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(37).Range.Select
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(37).Range.Font.Size = 16
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(37).Range.Text = Space(88) & "Certification Officer"
        .ActiveDocument.Paragraphs(37).Range.Font.Color = RGB(192, 0, 0) 'RED
        'Now save or Update the certificate number
        Rst4.Close
        If Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.Check9.Value = False Then
            SQL4 = "INSERT INTO Tbl_CertificateNumbers " _
                & "(CertificateNumberPrefix, CertificateMonthYear, CertificateStudent, CertificateDate, Certificate_ETS_IFSAC, CertificateCertNumber, CertificateStartDate, CertificateEndDate, " _
                & "CertificatePrinted, CertificateRePrintNo, CertificateRePrintReason, Certificate_IFSAC_SealNumber) " _
                & "VALUES " _
                & "(" & NewCertificateNumber & ", " & Format(Date, "mm") + Format(Date, "yyyy") & ", " & Val(Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.TempID) & ", " & Format(Date, "\#mm-dd-yyyy\#") & ", 'ETS', " _
                & " " & Val(Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.CertNo) & ", " & Format(Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.From, "\#mm-dd-yyyy\#") & ", " & Format(Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.ToDate, "\#mm-dd-yyyy\#") & ", " _
                & "True, 0, 'N/A', 'N/A');"
            DoCmd.RunSQL SQL4
        ElseIf Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.Check9.Value = True Then

'Save the certificate to C:\Temp so that the template does not get overwritten If Not objWord Is Nothing Then
    Dim DocName
    DocName = "C:\Temp\" & UserComputer & "\ID_" & Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.TempID & "_" & "Course_" & Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.TmpCourseNo & ".pdf"
    objWordDoc.ExportAsFixedFormat "C:\Temp\" & UserComputer & "\ID_" & Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.TempID & "_" & "Course_" & Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.TmpCourseNo & " ETS.pdf", wdExportFormatPDF, False, wdExportOptimizeForPrint, wdExportAllDocument
    MsgBox "The ETS  Certificate has been saved as follows: " & vbCrLf _
        & DocName & ".", vbOKOnly, "Saved as PDF"
    DocName = "C:\Temp\" & UserComputer & "\ID_" & Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.TempID & "_" & "Course_" & Forms!Frm_PrintCertificates.TmpCourseNo & " ETS.pdf"
 End If
   'release all objects
   objWord.ActiveDocument.Close wdDoNotSaveChanges
   objWord.Application.Quit wdDoNotSaveChanges
   Set objWord = Nothing
   Set Dbs = Nothing
Rst.Close
Rst1.Close
Rst2.Close

The code runs 100%, but somehow Word generates these messages out of the blu. When this happens, I need the message to be visible to the users.

Thanks

[Gicu]

Here are a few links that might help:
https://office-watch.com/2014/access...ont-from-code/
https://www.mrexcel.com/board/thread...8/page-3#posts
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...bring-to-front
Cheers,

[Minty]

It sounds as if the Word object isn't being closed correctly for some reason, so that a subsequent run of the code has a orphan process left to deal with.
You can get very similar weird behaviour with Excel automation.

It's imperative that the instances are correctly addresses and closed under all circumstances.

Check in the task manager when you see the random messages for a Word process hanging.