Get track metadata directly from CD

[isladogs]

Hi Bill.


MP3 files contain a large number of extended file properties which provide exactly what you want....and more besides
Try any MP3 in my Extended File Properties app (see link in post #11).
Then compare with the file properties associated with any CDA file

Attached are example reports from that app for a randomly chosen MP3 file and a CDA file
Note the differences in the properties each contains

Hope that helps

[Welshgasman]

Colin, if I'm understanding you, maybe there's hope yet. What is actually happening here is that I'm in the process of loading my entire CD library into an NAS from which I can play either via my Cataloging app or the PLEX media server on our TV. Since I'm used to using Sound Forge (I've transferred a boat-load of 12" vinyl treating them like master copies over the years) I load in the CD's "track-at-a-time) and save as mp3 files. Your post suggests to me that unbeknown to me that the file properties of those mp3 files include titles? If that's the case, my cataloging app will take care of the issue with a few lines of code.

They include a lot more than that, bit rate, genre etc.

I use Audiograbber to rip my CD's these days, and Tag & Rename for tidying up the data if needed.

[Micron]

the file properties of those mp3 files include titles?

So I'm back to being confused. It seems we are talking about files on a drive and not cda data. I mentioned that I retrieved the titles from a set of sound files in a folder using the "Excel" code yet that's not what's needed either?
I'll leave you guys to it and wish you luck.

[Welshgasman]

No Micron,
I think the o/p has discovered by this thread that accessing his mp3 files wil do what he wanted?

[GraeagleBill]

Title not shown in Extended File Properties. I think the problem now is HOW I READ IN the CDs. When I load in a CD track-by-track into Sound Forge, it's using a high bit rate on a WAV formatted file, then saved to disc as Sound Forge MP3. I think with all that function, I'm losing the title date I'd like to obtain.

Welshgasman uses an app entitled "Audiograbber". I see it online, so I'll play with that and see if that's a suitable substitute for what I've been doing with Sound Forge. (Sound Forge is a audio wave form editor for those that might not be familiar)

Well, so much for "Audiograbber", see error I get trying to install

[Welshgasman]

Most of the programs like AudioGrabber, look at onlne DBs like Gracenote to get all the data?
If the CD is not there, then you manually enter the data yourself, and submit it to the DB.
After verification, it is there for others to use. A sort of community project.

FWIW here is the program that I found that would read CDText in the format I displayed (if it exists).
Plus a link as to how to use it.

HTH

https://community.metabrainz.org/t/h...udio-cd/149137

Edit: That is the version I have, worked fine for me?

[GraeagleBill]

I used WMP to rip a CD. Colin's app only displays "Track 1" as the title, whereas it should be "Track1 - Allegro vivace".

I downloaded MediaTools and ran without parameters in anticipation of revealing the help text, but there's nothing revealed so I'm in mystery about that.

Windows didn't tell much about its security issue when I attempted to install AudioGrabber, but WMP didn't have any issues with the ripping process. I can't help but wonder if WMP is getting the CD-Text that's required for Colin's app to capture the entire title of the tracks.

I ripped the CD again using Easy CD-DA Extractor and then ran its "Metadata Editor", the title data is exactly like Colin's app shows.

I guess it's possible that symphonic music doesn't include such descriptions as tempo, etc. I'll experiment with a CD that contains song titles to see if that thought has any merit.

[isladogs]

I'm sure in the past you could rip CDs directly from Windows File Explorer but it seems to be no longer possible.
Anyway, ripping a CD from WMP is still possible as stated but there are various options about the metadata that is saved:



The file name will depend on the options ticked e.g.



When imported into the Access Media Player app, the displayed name will be whatever the file name is depending on those options



So with careful selection of what is included in the file name, you should be able to get the title in the file name and therefore in the Access media player

[Micron]

I have a tag editor. Haven't used it in a while. Let me know if you want to know what it is. On my phone now.

[GraeagleBill]

Thanks for the offer. But with further testing, I've come to the conclusion that the CD's themselves do not contain the title data of interest, at least with classical music. Most of the players are single song oriented. As such, symphony movement tempos and the like don't really fit into that arena. It appears that one needs the GraceNote services to obtain such information. Often times, like with Groove, one is accessing the title details via GraceNote transparently.

I've taken up a lot of people's time with this OP, I think it's time to call it quits.

[GraeagleBill]

One final thought...............

Have I failed to properly distinguish the difference between what's in "Metadata" versus what's in "CD-Data"? Is Colin's app reading something other than what the "rippers" are looking at?